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country less safe and i'm testing your stamina. [ laughter ] so let me go to the end here and say -- [ cheers and applause ] hillary has forgotten more about american policy than trump and his entire -- not exaggerating -- his entire team will ever understand. ladies and gentlemen, hillary's been there, she has been tested, i've been in the room with her as we jointly have with the president's leadership sent some of these killers to the gates of hell. she's strong, she's respected,
she's admired. there's nothing, nothing, she doesn't understand about america's place in the world. ladies and gentlemen -- [ cheers and applause ] because she knows one thing. that donald trump doesn't know. it's never, ever, ever been a good bet to bet against the united states of america. [ cheers and applause ] give it a fair shot. give it a fair chance. americans have never, never, never ever let their country down. never. and ladies and gentlemen, in scranton and in america we never bow, we never bend, we never kneel, we never yield, we own the finish line. that's who we are. we are america! [ cheers and applause ] and she gets it.
we're second to none and hillary clinton is going to write the next chapter in american victory. [ cheers and applause ] here you have it, we haven't seen these two on the same stage since the democratic national convention a couple weeks ago in philadelphia. huge, huge applause. this is a hometown crowd not just for the vice president joe biden but as she pointed out earlier on, her dad's family, roots in scranton. so the clinton -- rather the rodhams and the bidens growing up blocks away from one another, talking about their roots there in this special town in
pennsylvania. hillary clinton saying what is unique is -- in this country where both of these stories were written no matter what donald trump says america is great. we heard a lot today first with hillary clinton talking about once again calling on donald trump to release his tax returns. we also heard pre-buttal to donald trump's speech in the battleground state of ohio which we'll take momentarily. that's the small box on your screen where he will talk terrorism and his plans to safeguard the united states and then, of course, the big moment. the vice president up to bat, getting the crowds on their feet talking about why hillary clinton is the pick to be the next president of the united states and why donald trump -- what he said, quoting him, trump has no clue what it takes to lead this country. with that, let me bring in a couple of voices, david chalian is with me from washington, brianna keilar is there in washington. ryan lizza, cnn political
analyst and ed o'keefe with the "washington post." i've got all of you at a table far away from me but we'll work with it. david chalian, to you first. we were in philadelphia, it was obviously he was speaking to a hometown team in philadelphia in the throws of support for him and then, of course, there in scranton. talk about a man who is a pretty stellar approval rating beyond the president of the united states for hillary clinton, you can't get a better advocate from that. >> i think we went into this event looking far white working class joe biden appeal in this place where you heard the vice president himself sort of tout the success of the obama/biden ticket in 2008 and 2012 in this area and trying to parlay some of that on to hillary clinton but what we walked away from was a total trump takedown and again thises that sitting vice president. obviously everyone will say of course, this is a democrat
supporting hillary clinton, he'll take down donald trump but that doesn't get at -- and we've seen this from the president and now we're seeing it from the sitting vice president -- about how rare it is even in these partisan days for a sitting vice president to say thing s like "without hesitation i can say no major party nominee in history has known less or been less prepared to deal with national security." and what amazes him that he doesn't seem to want to learn about it. these are just complete gutting of donald trump to a home crowd but also someone who goes to work everyday at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> and at the dnc referring to that's a line of a bunch of malarkey, which donald trump has become famous, you're fired. >> that's exactly right. i think he was playing to this crowd. one of the lines that stuck with
me was something in tandem that we've seen with this hillary clinton ad that is out which is there's a guy behind me who has the nuclear codes. that's what he said. so you're picturing this person with the nuclear football with joe biden in case he has to take control and there's some sort of issue and he's creating what was the conclusion of this two-minute ad the hillary clinton campaign is out with which ends with michael hayden, the former cia director under george w. bush talking about how quickly you can move when you decide that you want to take action when it comes to a nuclear weapon and then to execute that he said it's built for speed and you hear joe biden speaking to that as well. there's this sense of laying out the case about why donald trump is not fit and then tying what he thinks and what he said about things to his impulsive nature
and how big of a negative out come he says there could be because of that. this is something we're seeing hillary clinton hammer home and joe biden as well. >> springboarding off that, ed o'keefe. the line hillary clinton repeated today that they tweeted out today, these were trumps words from last november when he spoke in iowa about "i know more about isis than the generals do, believe me." >> yeah, it's a line that democrats have repeated -- repeatedly, frankly and one that works, as she was discussing all of this you can see how so offended and how much this bothers her to her core. wherever she talks about trump in her speeches that's the moment where she seems to be most genuinely eager to discuss it and remind voters. if you can run up the numbers in scranton and do as well as they're expected to in the
fitzburg and philadelphia areas that puts the keystone state away and who better than the vice president to come along for that today. this is an area she campaigned in in 2008 and did well in given her personal connection bus to have biden come back and be a witness in a corner of the state where there's a lot of white voters and white men. if she can cut into those numbers while running up the score elsewhere in the state it could put this one away as well. >> what about the unique story the way the vice president referred to himself as the obama whisperer, when he and hillary clinton worked together ryan, you've written a lot i know about the vice president. talk about the arc of their relationship. >> that was one of the examples where you're trying to say something nice about the candidate but it's slightly passive aggressive. [ laughter ] the way i read that was me, joe
biden, i'm so close to barack obama that hillary clinton, who wasn't, she had to come to me to understand this inscrutable presence. so talking about biden and hillary being close but she didn't have access to the president like i did. the second half of the speech, the outright blistering attack on donald trump was quite something as david pointed out. essentially they are trying to disqualify donald trump as a legitimate candidate. someone who very rare in any presidential campaign in america that is simply not qualified to be president and the subtext of it was not that he's not just qualified, but that's already a -- i hate to say it but the subtext was he's already a security threat. >> he said it specifically. he called him a current threat. >> joe biden basically said after the speech he's going over to europe to make sure our allies understand we're still committed to nato, please don't
listen to donald trump about what he says this is historically atypical, the kind of campaign we have right now. where the one campaign is accusing what -- one campaign is accusing the other of. one other point, brooke, he said that donald trump would have admired stalin who is responsible for tens of millions of deaths of his own people. you don't get much more raw than that. we're this close to him saying he would admire hitler or something. >> that was one we sort of went whoa to when we heard that. i'm going ask you to stick around from one campaign to the ne next. we're watching and waiting from donald trump. he'll take the stage in youngtown, ohio, to defeat isis. rudy giuliani helping to team him up in this special battleground state. lots to talk about on this monday. you're watching cnn.
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live pictures, youngtown ohio, here is former new york mayor rudy giuliani speaking ahead of dwloump onald trump wh about to take the stage in one of the most important speeches of his campaign so far. after spending months and months refusing to defend his plan on how he will defeat isis because he says he doesn't want to clue in on the enemy, he is expecting to reveal more details. he will also lay out his strategy on how to defeat radical islam at home, a tenet of his plan that involves ideological testing of some sort
to make sure any potential immigrant are in agreement with the american way of life on issues, making sure they're not anti-semitic, not against any notion of homosexuality and other issues that would be against american values. first up, i have sarah murray on the trail with mr. trump today there in youngstown, ohio. sarah murray, we just heard hillary clinton say this about trump's plan. here she was. >> so we'll wait and see what he says today but you know sometimes he says he won't tell anyone what he'll do because he wants to keep his plan "secret." [ laughter ] then it turns out the secret is he has no plan. [ laughter ] >> so we heard -- that was the pre-buttal from hillary clinton.
>> brooke, the campaign is framing this as a vision of philosophy by donald trump for how to defeat isis, we're expecting him to come out here and say it's time for the u.s. to abandon its aspirations to be a nation builder, to be a country that spreads democracy in the middle east and instead focus in on battling isis on all fronts. we're expecting him to come out and say this battle against isis means anyone who is against isis is for america, needs to be one of our allies in fighting that battle. now we're also expecting him to flesh out some of the more controversial immigration plans he's proposed. we've heard of the muslim ban in the past then we heard his campaign sort of explain that in fact what they're talking about doing is banning immigrants from country they believe breed terrorism. he's going to propose a test for immigrants coming to the u.s.
anyone who might hold anti-semitic or gay views. there could be logistical views with how you put something like that in place. >> we'll listen for it. sarah murray, thank you for now. let me bring in my panel ahead of mr. trump speaking there in ohio. i have at the pentagon barbara starr, a pentagon correspondent, i have retired general wesley clark, former nato supreme allied commander, phil mudd, counterterrorism analyst and former cia cousecia counterterr official and john hajjar, co-chair for americans for trump. general clark, before we get to what mr. trump will be discussing and john i want to hear from you can we take a moment to talk about what we heard from joe biden? he did not mince words.
he said trump does not have what it takes to run this country, he belittles our allies, cannot be trusted with nuclear codes. have you ever heard a sitting vice president speak about a potential nominee, potential president like that? >> no, i haven't. but i do believe that vice president joe biden's concerns are warranted. i've traveled a loat and everywhere i go i hear complaints about what mr. trump said and fears and insecurities among the middle east and africa. they're asking what does america stand for, what does it mean, can we count on america? his rhetoric is making these countries less safe and hadn'table for american businesses and much less secure place. >> first to you barbara starr.
let's begin with a status update, number of isis fighters killed, the war on terror. >> well, the u.s. now estimates that 45,000 isis fighters have been killed in the last two years in u.s. air strikes and military action. on the u.s. side of the equation there are about 4,000 u.s. troops in america, maybe 200, 300 special operations across the border in syria. a number of air strikes they feel they put a dent in isis and if you just walk around the map a little bit let's show people where most of the action is taking place right now that is so significant. in the northern syrian city of raqqah u.s.-backed fighters have basically pushed isis out of that city, very strategic, very
key, that's the city isis had been using to stage fighters to cross into turkey to stage attacks in europe and other place places. in raqqah they are beginning to try to move against isis -- in mosul, they are trying to move against isis with iraqi forces and u.s.-backed forces in syria, going to be hard going, none of it will be easy. how is isis reacting to all of this? we have seen over the last several months a number of attacks abroad in europe, in other places, in bangladesh, the airport in istanbul, turkey. isis reacting by trying to step up its overseas recruiting inspiring people in its way through social media to attack wherever they can that's something the military can't solve, that will be the long-term crux of the mather,
h -- matter, how do you kill off the ideology? >> barbara, thank you, john, to y you. when i listen to barbara and she's talking about the information from u.s. intelligence, this is based upon countries, iraq, syria, libya, farther away. it seem what is mr. trump will outline is how to keep terror out of the u.s. stark difference, yes? >> no. you see, isis is already in the u.s. and what the vice president has failed to mention is the ideology and that's what's been missing for the past seven years. what trump says doesn't create the ideology of islamic terror. islamic terror has a very long history and it's been existing for 14 centuries nearly. you can talk about isis being
beaten on the battlefield but they're growing like wildfire. it's a metastasizing cancer. if they're destroyed like al qaeda before them there will be another group to come along unless the attack is taken to the ideology. that's what's been going on under the obama administration and hillary clinton would be a continuation of that. i think you'ller that clearly from donald trump in his speech shortly. >> when you say isis is in the united states, i think immediately of the isis-inspired attack in san bernardino, california. can you give me other examples? >> you don't have to carry a card. there's no ministry within isis issuing identity cards, collecting dues. you just have to ascribe to the ideology. there's nothing to counter it. nothing whatever. they've been ignoring it.
so donald trump's rhetoric -- >> how have they been ignoring it when accord dog barbara starr's reporting 45,000 isis fighters have been killed since 2014? >> that's not the ideology. i thought he would end wars, w seems like we're in more wars. he promised to pull troops out of iraq, he's clandestinely sending troops back into iraq. so it's growing, east asia, the philippines, all over in western europe it's growing like wildfire among muslim immigrant communities and we're doing nothing. and hillary clinton says we're going to allow more syrian refugees in the country. what happened to the yazidi being slaughter? are any of them among the refugees? i don't think so. are any christians among the
refugees? very, very few. >> phil mudd, jump in please, sir. >> i think we're missing one of the key questions and that's whether we see a u-turn about how america thinks about democracy in the middle east. you remember in 2011 we were celebrating tunisia. and revolution and democracy whether you like it or not br g brings kbrin brings chaos because sometimes it drives people apart. what i'm looking for mr. trump to talk about -- and this is a fair debating point -- is whether we want to side with people like the russians to favor dictators who will fight isis at the expense of favoring democrats. i think that's a big question today. >> on the notion of democracy, we know one of his key points is the fact that he says the u.s., if there were a president trump, the u.s. would not try to nation build, would not try to seek or spread democracy. he talks about the failures of
the iraq war. you would be in agreement with mr. trump? >> on that issue i think he's mistaken. if you ask the people i was with at the white house on 2001 whether we should have spent more time in afghanistan before we went into iraq i think the question would have been we focus too little on nation building and now we have the return in some cases of al qaeda, the rise of isis and the return of taliban. it's not just about military power, it's about giving people in cities things like water, food, education and a sense of security. >> general clark, what do you think about the not nation building, not spreading democracy? >> well, i do think you have to be careful because i think you -- every case is one case in itself. democracy isn't some magical potion you can sprinkle out. it's a long-term problem. brooke, i want to go back to what john was saying about the united states has done nothing. i don't think the united states has done nothing to combat the
spread of the ideology. we're working with our allies, sharing intelligence we have people working in ms. lum communities in many different ways to combat the attraction isis may hold to young people, they've been pretty effective. behind that we have our local police, the fbi, we've done a lot about isis. and we've got the best model in the world against it. all these people want to come to the united states. they're not coming here to subvert america. they're coming here because they like our value, the freedom, the culture, the rule of law. so when john says we're not doing anything, he misunderstands the whole thrust of american history. as well as what our current
programs are. >> gentlemen, let me ask you to stand by, here he is, donald trump. >> it's great to be with you this afternoon and today we begin a conversation about how to make america safe again. in the 20th centucentury, the u states has defeated fascism, naziism and communism. now a different threat challenges our world, radical islamic terrorism. this summer there's been an isis attack launched outside the war zones of the middle east. hard to believe, every 84 hours. here in america we have seen one brutal attack after another. 13 were murdered and 38 wounded in the assault on ft. hood.
the boston marathon bombing wounded and maimed 264 people and ultimately left five dead, including two of our great police officers. in chattanooga, tennessee, five unarmed marines, unbelievable people, by the way, were shot and killed at a military recruiting center. last december 14 innocent americans were gunned down at an office party in san bernardino. another 22 were very gravely injured. in june americans were executed at the pulse nightclub in america. another 53 were badly injured. it was the worst mass shooting in our history and the attack by far the worst on the lgbtq
community. and i'll tell you what, we can never ever allow this to happen again. [ applause ] thank you. in europe we have seen the same carnage and bloodshed inflicted upon our closest allies. in january of 2015, a french satirical newspaper, "charlie hebdo," was attacked for publishing cartoons after the prophet mohammed. 12 were killed, including two police officers and 11 were wounded. two days later, four were murdered in a jewish delicatessen. in november of 2015, terrorists went on a shooting rampage in paris that slaughtered 13 0
people and wounded another 368 people. some in vary, very, very bad shape today. france is suffering greatly and the tourism industry is being massively affected in a most negative way. in march of this year, terrorists detonated a bomb in brussels airport killing 32 and injuring 340 people. this july in the south of france an islamic terrorist turned his truck into an instrument of mass murder, plowing down and killing 85 men, women, and children and wounding 308 people. terrible. among the dead were two american s -- a texas father and his
11-year-old son. a few weeks ago in germany a refugee armed with an ax wounded five people in a gruesome train attack. only days ago an isis killer invaded a christian church in normandy france, forced an 85-year-old priest to his knees -- a priest who was beloved, who was beloved, before cutting his throat and just unthinkable other things. overseas isis has carried out an absolute atrocity and one after another. children slaughters, men and women burned alive, girls sold into slavery, crucifixions, beheadings, drownings, ethnic minorities targeted for mass execution.
holy sites delegatisecrated. christians driven frir from the homes and executed. isis rounding up what it calls nations of the cross, nations of the cross, in an absolute and total genocide. we can not let this evil continue. [ applause [ applause ] thank you. nor can we let the hateful ideology of radical islam, its oppression of gay, women, children and non-believers be allowed to reside or spread within our own countries. [ applause ] we will defeat radical islamic
terrorism just as we have defeated every threat we faced at every age and before. but we will not -- we will not -- remember this defeated with closed eyes or silenced voices. we have a president that doesn't want to say the words. anyone who cannot name our enemy is is not fit to lead our country. anyone who cannot condemn the hatred, oppression and violence of radical islam lacks the moral clarity to serve as our preside president. the rise of isis is the direct result of policy decisions made by president obama and secretary
of state clinton. let's look back at the middle east at the very beginning of 2009 before the obama/clinton administration took over. libya was stable, syria was under control, egypt was ruled by a s.e.ecular president and a ally of the united states. iraq was facing a reduction in violence. the group we now call isis was close to being extinguished, iran was being choked off by economic sanctions. fast forward to today. what we have -- and think of this, and the decisions made by the obama/clinton group have been absolutely did sast russas.
libya is in ruins, our ambassador is did and isis has gained a new base of operations. syria is in the midst of a disastrous civil war. isis controls large portions of territory. a refugee crisis now threatens europe and the united states. in egypt terrorists have gained a foothold in the sinai desert near the suez canal, one of the most essential waterways of the world. iraq is in chaos and isis is on the loose. isis has spread across the middle east and into the west. in 2014, isis was operating in seven nations. they were in seven nations. terrible but that's what it was. today they're fully operational in 18 countries with aspiring branches in six more for a total of 24 and many believe that
number is 28 to 30 countries. they don't even know. the situation is likely worse than the public has any idea. a new congressional report reveals that the administration has down played the growth of isis from 40% saying they have efforts to manipulate their findings. trying to make it look much better than it is. it's bad. at the same time, isis is trying to infill rate refugtrate refugo europe and the united states. iran, the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism is now flush with $150 billion in cash released by the united states plus, if you remember from two weeks ago, another $400 million in actual cash that was obviously used for ransom. worst of all, the nuclear deal
puts iran, the number-one state sponsor of radical islamic terrorism on a path to nuclear weapons. the obama/clinton administration has unleashed isis and put iran -- which clants "death to america" in a dominant position of regional power and, in fact, aspiring to be a dominant world power. it all began in 2009 with what has become known as "president obama's global apology tour." we all remember. [ boos ] we all remember. in a series of speech, president obama described america as arrogant, dismissive, derisive and a colonial power. he was describing us. he informed other countries that
he would be speaking up about america's past errors. he pledged we would no longer be a senior partner that sought to dictate our terms. he lectured cia officers of the need to acknowledge their mistakes and described guantanamo bay as a rallying cry for our enemies. perhaps no speech was more misguided than president obama's speech to the muslim world delivered in cairo, egypt, in 2009. i remember it well. in winning the cold war, president ronald reagan repeatedly touted the superiority of freedom over communism and called the ussr the evil empire. yet when president obama delivered his address in cairo, no such moral courage could be found or would be found. instead of condemning the
oppression is women and gays in many muslim nations and the systemic violation of human rights or the financing of global terrorism, president obama tried to draw an equivalency between our human rights record and remember this, our human rights and theirs, the records are unbelievable and unmistakable. his naive words were followed by even more naive actions. the failure to establish a new status of forces agreement in iraq and the election-driven timetable for withdrawal surrendered our gains in that country and led directly to the rise of isis. without question. [ applause ]
the failures in iraq were compounded by hillary clinton's disaster, total disaster, in libya. president obama has since said that he regrets and really regrets libya and the mistake he made, he considers it his worst mistake. according to then secretary of defense robert gates, the invasion of libya was nearly a split decision but hillary clinton's forceful advocacy for the intervention was the deciding factor. that's why we went in. with one after another hillary clinton's policies launched isis on to the world stage. yet as she threw the middle east into violent turmoil things turned out really to be not so hot for our world and our country, the middle east in
particular. the clintons made almost $60 million in gross income while she was secretary of state unbelievable. incident after incident proves again and again hillary clinton lacks the judgment -- as said by bernie sanders -- stability, and temperament and the moral character to lead our nation. [ applause ] importantly, she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on isis and all of the many adversaries we face not only in terrorism but in trade and every other challenge we must confront to turn our great country
around. [ applause ] it is now time for a new approach. our current strategy of nation building and regime change is a proven absolute failure. we have created the vacuums that allow terrorism to grow and thrive. i was an opponent from the iraq war from the beginning. a major difference between me and my opponent. though i was a private citizen whose personal opinions on such matters were really not sought, i nonetheless publicly expressed my private doubts about the invasion. three months before the invasion i said in an interview with neil
cavuto to whom i offer my best wishes for a speedy recovery that "perhaps we shouldn't be doing it yet." and that the economy is a much bigger problem. in august of 2004, very early right after the conflict, i made a detailed statement to "esquire" magazine in an interview. here is the quote in full. "look at the war in iraq and the mess we're in. i would never have handled it that way." this was right after the invasion. does anybody really believe that iraq is going to be a wonderful democracy where people are going to run down to the voting box and gently put in their ballot and the winner is happily going to go and step up and lead the country? [ applause ] come on.
i then continued "two minutes after we leave there's going to be a revolution and the meanest, toughest, smartest most vicious guy --" in this case guy, " -- will take over and he'll have weapons of mass destruction, which saddam husse" which saddam hussein did not have. what was the purpose of this whole thing? hundreds and hundreds of young people killed and what happened the people coming back with no arms and no legs? not to mention, in all fairness, the other side, the tremendous damage done. all those iraqi kids who have been blown to pieces and it turns out that all of the reasons for the war were blatantly wrong.
all of this death and destruction for nothing. so i've been clear for a long time that we should not have gone in but i have been just as clear in saying what a catastrophic mistake hillary clinton and president obama made with the reckless way in which they pulled out. [ applause ] after we have made those hard-fought sacrifices and gains we should have never made such a sudden withdrawal on a timetable advertised to our mennes. they said "we're moving out. here's our time, here's our date." who would do this but an incompetent president? [ applause ]
al qaeda in iraq had been decimated and obama and clinton gave it new life and allowed it to spread all across the world. by that same token, president obama and hillary clinton should have never attempted to build a democracy in libya to push for immediate regime change in syria, or to support the overthrow of the mubarak in egypt. one more point on this. i have long said that we should have kept the oil in iraq. [ applause ] i have said it over and over and over again. another area where my judgment has been proven correct. i said it so many times, virtually every time i was interviewed, keep the oil, keep the oil. according to cnn, isis made as much as $500 million in oil sales in 2014 alone. that's before they really got
started. fuelling and funding its reign of terror. if we had controlled the oil like i said we should we could have prevented the rise of isis in iraq. both by cutting off a major source of funding and through the presence of u.s. forces necessary to siafeguard the oil and vital infrastructure products necessary for us to have the oil. i was saying this constantly and consistently to ever who would listen. i said "keep the oil, keep the oil, keep the oil. don't let somebody else get it." [ applause ] if they had listened to me then, we would have had the economic benefits of the oil which i
wanted to use to help take care of the wounded soldiers and families of those who died in the war. [ applause ] in addition to which, thousands of lives would have been saved. this proposal by its very nature would have left soldiers in place of our assets. we would have had soldiers there guarding this valuable supply of oil. in the old days when we won a war, to the victor belonged the spoils. [ applause ] instead all we got from iraq and our adventures in the middle east was death, destruction, and tremendous financial loss.
but it's time to put the mistakes of the past behind us and chart a new course. [ applause ] if i become president the era of nation building will be brought to a very swift and decisive end. [ cheers and applause ] a new approach which must be shared by our allies overseas and our friends in the middle east must be to halt the spread of radical islam. [ applause ] all actions should be oriented around this goal and any country which shares this goal will be our ally.
some don't share this goal. we can not always choose our friends but we can never fail to recognize our enemies. [ applause ] as president, i will call for an international conference focused on that goal. we will work side by side with our friends in the middle east, including our greatest ally, israel. [ applause ] we will work with anyone who recognizes that ideology of death must be extinguished. we will also work very closely with nato on this new mission.
i have previously said nato was obsolete because it failed to deal adequately with terrorism. since my comments, they have changed their policy and now have a new division focused on terror threats, very good. very, very good. i also believe that we can find common ground with russia in the fight against isis. wouldn't that be a good thing. wouldn't that be a good thing. they, too, have much at stake in the outcome in syria and they have had their own battles with islamic terrorism just as bad as ours. they have a big, big problem in russia with isis. my administration will aggressively pursue joint and coalition military operations to crush and destroy isis. international cooperation to cut off their funding, expanded
intelligence sharing and cyber warfare to disable their propaganda and recruiting, their recruiting is taking place right now and they're setting records. it's got to be stopped. [ applause ] we can not allow the internet to be used as a recruiting tool and for other purposes by our enemy we must shut down their access to this form of communication and we must do it immediate ly. immediately. [ applause ] unlike hillary clinton, who has risked so many lives with her careless handling of sensitive information, my administration will not telegraph exactly military plans and what they
are. [ cheers and applause ] and by the way, what's happened with her 33,000 e-mails is an absolute disgrace to the united states of america. [ applause ] [ crowd chanting "trump" ] i've often said the great douglas macarthur and the great general george patton would be in a state of shock if they were alive today to see the way president obama and hillary clinton tried to recklessly announce their every move before it happens. [ laughter ] like they did in iraq. so that the enemy can prepare
and adapt. the fight will not be limited to isis. we will decimate al qaeda and we will seek to starve funding. [ applause ] for iran-backed hamas and hezbollah. so important. we can use existing u.n. security council resolutions to apply new and even stronger sanction sanctions military, cyber and financial warfare will all be necessary to dismantle islamic terrorism but we must use ideological warfare as well, very important. and they use it on us better than we have ever even thought of using it on them. but that will change.
just as we won -- thank you. just as we won the cold war in part by exposing the evils of communism and the virtues of free markets so, too, must we take on the ideology of radical islam. while my opponent accepted millions of dollars in foundation donations from countries where being gay is an offense punishable by prison or death, my administration will speak out against the oppression of women, gays, and people of different believes. [ applause ] our administration will be a friend to all moderate muslim reformers in the middle east and will amplify their voices. this includes speaking out against the horrible practice of honor killings where women are murdered by their relatives for
dressing, marrying, or acting in a way that violates fundamentalist teachings. over 1,000 pakistani girls are estimated to be the victims of honor killings by their relatives each year. recently, a prominent pakistani social media star was strangled to death by her brother on the charge of dishonoring the family. in his confession, the brother took pride in the murder and said "girls are born to stay home and follow traditions." shockingly, this is a practice that has reached our own shores. on such cases and many, many cases it happened but one involves an iraqi immigrant who was sentenced to 34 years in jail for running over his own daughter, claiming she had been too westernized. to defeat islamic terrorism we must also speak out forcefully
against a hateful ideology that provides the breeding ground for violence and terrorism to grow. it's a breeding ground. it's a terrible, terrible breeding ground. a new immigration policy is needed immediately and as well. [ cheers and applause ] the common thread linking the major islamic terrorist attacks that have occurred on our soil -- 9/11, the ft. hood shooting, the boston bombing, the san bernardino attack, the orlando attack, is that they have involved immigrants or the children of immigrants. clearly new screening procedures are needed.
[ applause ] a review by the u.s. senate immigration subcommittee has identified 380 individuals charged with terrorism or terrorism-related offenses between 9/11 and 2014 and many more since then and this year is a record for identification. it's gotten worse, far worse. we also know that isis recruits refugees after their entrance into the country as we have seen with the somali refugee population in minnesota. beyond terrorism as we have also seen in france, foreign populations have brought their anti-semitic attitudes with them. in cologne, germany, on new year's eve, we have seen the reports of sexual violence and assault far greater than anybody knows. pew polling shows in many of the countries from which we draw large numbers of immigrants
extreme views about religion such as the death penalty and for those who are involved the death penalty is very, very common if you don't have the faith that they demand you have. a trump administration will establish a clear principle that will govern all decisions pertaining to immigration and we will be tough and we will be even extreme, extreme. [ applause ] we should only admit into this country those who share our values and respect our people. in the cold war we had an ideological screening test. the time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today.
i call it extreme vetting. i call it extreme, extreme vetting. our country has enough problems, we don't need more and these are problems like we've never had before. [ cheers and applause ] in addition to screening out all members of the sympathizers of terrorist groups, we must also screen out any who have hostile attitudes toward our country or its principles or who believe that sharia law should supplant american law. [ applause ] those who do not believe in our constitution or who support bigotry and hatred will not be admitted for immigration into our country. [ cheers and applause ]
only those who we expect to flourish in our country and to embrace a tolerant american society should be issued visas. to put these new procedures in place we will have to temporarily suspend immigration from some of the most dangerous and volatile regions of the world. that have a history of exporting terrorism. not for us. not for us. [ crowd chanting "trump." ] thank you. as soon as i take office i will ask the state department and the department of homeland security to identify a list of regions where adequate screening cannot take place.
there are many such regions. we will stop processing visas from such areas until it is safe to resume based on new circumstances or new procedurpr. the size of current immigration flows are simply too large to performed a perform adequate screening. we admit about 100,000 permanent immigrants from the middle east every year. beyond that we admit hundreds of thousands of temporary workers and visitors from the same regions. hundreds of thousands. if we don't control the numbers, we can't performed a "screening, there's no way it can take place.
by contrast my opponent wants to increase -- which is unbelievable. no matter who 50%. >> hillary clinton's plan would mean roughly 620,000 refugees from all current refugee sending nations in her first term, assuming no cuts to other refugee programs. so it could get worse. this would be additional to all other non-refugee immigration. unbelievable numbers, unbelievable numbers. the subcommittee estimate hearse plan would impose a lifetime
cost of roughly $400 billion when you include the costs of health care, welfare, housing, schooling, and all other entitlement benefits that are excluded from the state department's placement figures. think of this. $400 million. in short, hillary clinton wants to be america's angela merkel. [ laughter ] true. and you know what a disaster this massive immigration has been to germany and the people of germany. crime has risen to levels that no one thould people would ever, ever see, it's a cat trophy. we have enough problems in our country. we don't need more. lastly, we will need to restore common sense to our security procedures.
another common feature of the past attacks that have occurred on our soil is that warning signs were totally ignored. the 9/11 hijackers had fraud all over their visa applications. almost every one of them it said practically in big bold letters "fraud." [ laughter ] and nobody saw it. the russians warned us about the boston bombers here on political asylum and the attackers were twice interviewed by the fbi. very sad. the female san bernardino shooter on her statements and everything that she said, she was here on a fiance visa. which most people have never even heard of from saudi arabia and she wanted to support very
openly jihad online. these are the people we're taking in. a neighbor saw suspicious behavior -- bombs on the floor. [ laughter ] and other things. but didn't warn authorities because they said they didn't want to be accused of racial profiling. now many are dead and many more are gravely wounded. the shooter in orlando reportedly celebrated in his classroom after 9/11. he, too, was interviewed by the fbi. his father, a native of afghanistan, supported the oppressive taliban regime and expressed anti-american views very strong ly and by the way ws
just seen sitting behind whik a big, fat, smile on his face all the way through her speech. he obviously liked what she had to say. it's called weakness. weakness. it's called stupidity. and we've had it. [ applause ] . the ft. hood shooter delivered a presentation to mental health experts in which he threw out one red flag after another. he even proclaimed "we love death more than you love life." not good. these warning signs were ignored because political correctness has replaced common sense in our
society. [ applause ] [ crowd chanting "trump" ] one of my first acts as president will be to establish a commission on radical islam which will include reformist voices in the muslim community who will hopefully work with us. we want to build bridges and erase divisions. the goal of the commission will be to identify and explain to the american public the core convictions and believes of radical islam to identify the warning signs of radicalization and to find the networks that support radicalization.
this will include federal investigators and immigration screeners. while i'm at it, we should give a hand to our great police officers and law enforcement officials. [ cheers and applause ] [ crowd chanting "trump" ] thank you. we will also keep open guantanamo bay and place a renewed emphasis on human intelligence. drone strikes will remain part of our strategy but we will also seek to capture high-value targets to gain needed information to dismantle their
organizations. [ applause ] foreign combatants will be tried in military commissions. [ cheers and applause ] finally. we will pursue aggressive criminal or immigration charges against anyone who lends materiel support to terrorism. there will be consequences for those people. there will be very serious consequences. similar to the effort to take down the mafia, this will be the understood mission of every federal investigator and prosecutor in the country. to accomplish a goal we must state our missions.
they will be stripped out and removed one by one viciously if necessary. viciously if necessary. immigration offices will also have their powers restored. they've been taken away. those who are guests in our country that are preaching hate will be asked to return home immediately and if they don't do it we will return them home. [ cheers and applause ] to make america safe again we must work together again. our victory in the cold war relied on a bipartisan and international consensus. that is what we must have to defeat radical islamic terrorism.
just like we couldn't defeat communism without acknowledging that communism exists or explaining its horrible evils we can't defeat radical islamic terrorism unless we do the exact same thing. we have to explain that it exists and explain the difficulties. we have to have a leader that can do that and we don't have that now. [ applause ] but this also means that we have to promote the exceptional virtues of our own way of life. we have an exceptional country, an exceptional way of life but it's being tread on by sick, sick people. and expecting that as newcomers come into our society they will like wise have respect and do the same. pride in our institutions our history and our values should be
taught by parents and teachers and impressed upon, all of those who come into our society and want to join our society. [ applause ] assimilation is not an act of hostility but an expression of compassion. our system of government and our american culture is the best in the world and will produce the best outcomes for all who adopt it. [ applause ] [ crowd chanting "usa" ] this approach will not only make us safer but bring us closer together as a country.
renewing the spirit of americanism will help heal the divisions of our country of which there are so many. we have a divider as president, we call him a great divider. it's the thing he does best. it will do so by emphasizing what we have in common, not what pulls us apart. this is my pledge to the american people as your president i will be your single greatest champion. [ applause ] ly fight to ensure that every american is treated equally, protected equally and honored equally. [ applause ] we will reject bigotry and hatred and oppression in all of its many ugly forms and seek a
new future build on our common culture and values as one american people. only this way will we make america great again and safe again for everyone. thank you very much, god bless you. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] thank you, thank you. that you can. >> so for the past 40 minutes or so a significant speech delivered on terror both abroad and here at home from the republican presidential nominee donald trump there in the key swing state of ohio. a panel of experts and reporters standing by general wesley clark, let me bring you in first. i know you're a supporter of hillary clinton's and just a look at how he opened this speech. you know, ticking off all the different cities both here and abroader the roy attacks, isis-directed attacks, isis-inspired attacks and the fact he said we can not let this
evil continue, he says the rise of isis is a direct response to obama and hillary clinton. you can argue that but can you argue when you look at all of these attacks that it has gotten better under this current administration. general? >> i think you have to argue that this is a problem that has to be worked and that's exactly what the administration is doing and that's what hillary will do. but i think you do have to argue with the fact that it was caused by barack obama. all of the problems he cited with iraq -- including nation building -- begin with george bush and the idea that we would leave u.s. troop there is to guard oil wells and oil refineries and pipelines and take their oil is -- it's crazy. macarthur did not do that, general macarthur didn't do that ch that. all that shows mr. trump doesn't understand.
now we have a problem with isis and we have to work it but it's not the only national security problem we have. we have a problem with russia. we have a problem in the south china sea, we have many problems we're working simultaneously and the thing that struck me most about mr. trump's speech was that he was so simplistically focused on isis. take this example. . why is that being simplistic. >> because when you say that you're going to be an ally with anybody that fights isis, there are many people fighting isis that may have conflicting interests with you in other parts of the world and you have to have a sophisticated enough understanding of foreign policy to handle all of this. i know hillary clinton can handle that. she can fight against isis, deal with putin effectively in eastern europe. he can work with china and china's neighbors in the south china sea. i don't know that mr. trump can do that from this speech on national security. what i see is a single-minded
focus on one problem and i don't see a solution to it. everything he cited that he would do is being done right now by this administration in terms of cyber, working with allies, and all that in the middle east. everything. >> let me come back to you in a second and go to our trump supporter. john hajjar. john, quickly, a specific question, we must heard mr. trump reference when it comes to terror suspects either abroad or here at home that he would and l them with extreme and vicious measures. what did he mean specifically by that? >> well, i think we're going to enforce the laws that are on the books but i'd like to make a quick comment in responsibility to general clark. >> could you actually first answer my question with all due respect? could you answer my question and i promise we'll give you time to do that. >> absolutely. the specific response is we will enforce laws on the books not enforced now. when someone commits a crime and
they are not eligible -- i'm not an immigration law expert but i'm sure there are provisions of the law that are not being fee cussed on by this administration, they're being ignored by this administration that will call for somebody losing their resident status, you don't automatically get your citizenship. it's a process and we will vet these individuals making sure they pledge aleerj yans to this country, as mr. trump said. the u.s. constitution will take precedence over sharia law over a trump administration. >> understood and i think he was referencing extreme vetting but if i may, what he was saying, terror suspects, he referenced in the past fighting fire with fire, talkingboardwaterboarding that's where i was going. you don't believe when he said vicious measures that he was referencing that the u.s. should waterboard? >> well, i think the president will follow our constitution. it's not being followed now, whatever the law allows, the law
allows justice will make sure that justice is done for people who do us harm. and my response to the general is he has not engaged the moderates in the muslim community. our organization, american middle east coalition for trump is the largest ever assembled middle east group. we have kurds, turks, arab, we have a egyptians, we have cops. we have seen the failure of this administration which would be furthered by a hillary clinton administration where the radicals are being engaged like the muslim brotherhood. completely to the detriment on the people on the ground. as an american we're so concerned with the suffering of americans at the hands of terror and western europeans but nobody is taking it on the chin, nobody's putting their necks literally on the line more than the people in the middle east
and especially ethnic and religious minorities. we've done nothing whatever. they've been land slandering my. they've bent over backwards to make the deal with the evil iranian regime. >> general clark, would you like to respond to that. i know what the obama administration has done. outreach after outreach to the muslim american community. i can't speak to the specifics of your organization, there are dozens and dozens of muslim american organizations. i talked to many of them myself personally. they are working closely the obama administration and giving guidance to the obama administration. they're worried about how people will be treating them and making
sure that their muslim american community doesn't support. i find them to be extremely patriotic, found them to be good americans and that's why they stay here. so i think the charge that the obama administration is not doing enough with the muslim american community is just absolutely wrong and i can promise you from everything i know about hillary clinton and the people around hillary clinton she will do everything she can with the muslim american community. >> i can give you specifics if you like, general, that's just not the case. >> just a minute gentlemen to both of you. clis let me pivot to you. clarissa ward is our senior international correspondent. i'd like your initial thoughts on the speech. >> my initial thoughts on w a lot of it as general clark said stating the obvious stating things the u.s. is already
doing. cut off allies, stop recruitment, yes, stopping recruitment is a great idea, how do we do it? you heard trump proposing we cut off the internet in those areas. i'm not sure how exactly that would work but i'm pretty sure it would limit the abilities of our intelligence services to collect intel on these men fighting with isis because the internet is how much so much surveillance is being done by our security services. he talked about allies who embrace his notion with moderate islam. he cited president sisi of egypt and the king of jordan but egypt and jordan already have very close ties to the u.s. and indeed the u.s. spends a lot of funding on helping both of those countries. he seemed to have a much more bombastic stands when it came to countries like iran and saudi arabia but it remains unclear how one would navigate the
waters of being the leader of the free world while having no strong relationship with those two countries which of course are the two main countries in the region. he also talked about syria and libya and he singled them out as these are both examples of absolute disasters of the obama presidency but, of course, in the case of libya we saw and active u.s. intervention and with certainly disastrous consequences though there have been some major gains on the ground against isis by u.s.-backed forces last week but in syria there have been very little action from the u.s. and no intervention so it doesn't seem a fair way to compare them directly to when they're both different and contradicting policies. so things con fro ttradicted ea other. >> i want to talk about how he
painted in 2009 iraq and libya and syria as more stable and how isis was close to being extinguished, or the group we now know to being isis. gail, let me pivot to you on how he talks about u.s. allies and how he mentioned anyone willing to help -- if you fight terror thus you become an ally of the united states. my question to you is, is he redefining what it means to be an ally of the u.s.? >> yeah, i think this whole speech was a series of disparate pieces that don't necessarily fit into the same puzzle and that's what's so interesting. in places like syria you see americans working with allies who don't necessarily share a broader american value and to clarissa's point about what we're seeing from the speech, you know nation building is something trump said this is the end of it but if you go back to obama speeches, as early as may 2011, june 2012 he was saying it's time to focus on nation building at home and when you talk to senior military folks
they say that's part of the problem is that there's a vacuum that was created because nation building -- which is a 14-letter word -- has become a four-ledder wo -- letter word in the minds of people looking at u.s. foreign policy which is creating the need even more for allies that don't necessarily share american values are really leading many people's views to vacuums on the ground that make a per tile territory for groups like isis. i think there are disparate pieces that don't necessarily convert. >> that was one piece talking about u.s. allies under a trump presidency and to phil mudd he talked about people who want to come into the united states, referenced to cold war and ideological screening then and called -- what he would call extreme vetting so if you try to come into the united states there would be a test for entry if you are anti-semitic, anti-gay or other views that
would conflict with u.s. values a, would it be enforceable? b, that would be constitutional. >> i don't know if it would be constitutional. i can tell you i don't think it would be enforceable with one major asterisk. when you have a screening process on the front end, take the san bernardino killers. how confident are we they won't walk in saying i'm a loyal american, i want to be a loyal american? the question to me is simply once they get here and they do something wrong, we've typically been very welcoming to people once they arrive. what he's suggesting is a fundamental choice for american voters. do you want to be quicker to tell somebody who has some of the rights of the americans that we're going to expeople them if we see, for example, isis sympathetic literature on a facebook post. if a neighbor says "i heard him say something about isis." it's not screening on the front end, it's what you do on the back end. >> so these are the policies. let me pivot and talk politics, david chalian, our cnn director. i jotted down this note that jumped out at me when he said hillary clinton lacks "the
mental and physical stamina to take on isis." mental and physical stamina. i don't have donald trump here but what might he be referring to? >> this is an argument he's been making about hillary clinton for months and months. he successfully labelled jeb bush as low energy and that had sticking power in the primary season. he was also putting out this kind of language about hillary clinton for the last many months too. again, a message of his strength versus her weakness n the way he frames this but brooke looking back at this politically for a moment. donald trump is on firmer ground today debating among all your guests his specific proposals or vision is a place that is a stronger political place for him than a campaign in is in crisis and concerned they can't keep
him on message. so to me politically the argument he made today i think he made early in the speech when he went through libya and syria and iraq and egypt and pointed to the way those places looked in january, 2009, before the obama/clinton administration came into place and how they look now and that, whether or not he and hillary clinton obviously can debate and disagree about the proposals to make those places better that could be a compelling political argument if he's able to sustain it and stay on it that the world may appear more chaotic to american voters at home now than it did when barack obama first took office. >> david, thank you, general clark, to you and the notion of nation building and the idea of getting away from nation building. it's a popular one, would it not be, in america in 2016? >> it is popular to get away
from nation building however the truce is that it was george w. bush who said we weren't going to do in addition building then we went into afghanistan and it turned out we had to. we're doing a lot of nation building around the world and we have for a long time, we do it by our culture, by the economy, by tourism by trade, by many other things. in eastern europe where vladimir putin is reaching out to subvert governments, we're doing nation building. we're doing it with diplomacy, not forces over there. so nation building goes on all around the world because people like our values and they aspire to those values. so really the idea that you just cut off nation building, build a wall, it's not realistic. that's why i say his speech is simplistic, incoherent in its pieces and it just -- it was ultimately the best job they
could do to keep donald trump from being donald trump failed when he said "we'll invade a country and take their oil." i know it's a big applause line in some audiences but it doesn't make sense and no military leader would support occupying a country in trying to guide its oil reservoirs and all of its infrastructure to repay debts. we just -- we don't do that in the 21st century. we didn't even do it in the 20th century. after we invaded germany, we helped rebuild the german economy for germany and made germany an ally so there's a lot in this speech that -- it just -- it shows that we have someone here who is not ready to be president. he read his speech off a tell prompter but the real donald trump is still showing through here. >> not ready to be president, incoherent, simplistic. john, is that fair?
>> absolutely not. i think it was his best speech on foreign policy. i think you can clearly see from the past seven years there's been a failure of foreign policy of this administration which will be carried on by a clinton presidency. clearly the people know it, the press can tell us whatever we want but the people can see the frequency and the extremity of these islamic terrorist attacks are increasing and by the way donald trump was clear he was not in favor of the initial invasion of iraq. he didn't want to walk away from our allies, he wanted to stay with our allies and interact, unlike barack obama who abandoned them and that's what i'm hearing from our people on the ground here and their relatives, friends, associates in the middle east that the united states under president barack obama abandoned our allies, that's the antithesis of what a trump administration would be. we'll stand by our allies -- israel, king abdullah in jordan, president al sisi who is ignored by this administration.
we will stand by them. we will create safe zones so the real refugees from the middle east won't have to trek thousands of miles and risk their lives in rickety boats to drown in the mediterranean. they'll be able to stay in their homeland in protected areas and allowed to build their own nation. it's not our job to build their nation for them, it's their job. but we should stand by them, provide support as mr. trump made clear and not walk away. i thought he gave a lot of substance in this speech, it was very clearly laid out, the antithesis of what we've been hearing and seeing from president obama and hillary clinton on the stump. >> thank you both, stand by. i want to go to someone who's been to call of these countries that we're referencing, that these nominees are referencing. ben wedeman is our senior international correspondent in istanbul, the site of a recent terror attack at the ataturk airport. my question is more of a reality check question. we heard mr. trump outlining the state of play in 2009.
libya he said stable, syria under control, iraq a reduction in violence. what was it like pre-2011? >> well, i can tell you, if you look for instance at the case of libya, moammar ghadafi was in power since 1969. the man was mentally unstable. i interviewed him a variety of times and it was clear he did not have a sound mind and what you saw in 2011 was basically like a pressure cooker blowing up after so many years and of course there's going to be a messy aftermath. i lived in syria under hafez el assad, the father of bashar al assad. the assad family has run syria since 1971. there were pressure, tensions, hatred that was building for decades and of course we saw that turn into the mess that is syria today so to pin this on
the obama administration is, as the general said just a moment ago, somewhat simplistic and, of course, listen to mr. trump's speech, in the beginning he went through a list of the attacks in the united states, the attacks in europe by isis but left out of the equation, of course, the attacks in places like iraq, in syria by isis on muslims. i was in baghdad in july in the aftermath of the july 3 bombing which killed more than 300 people. the majority of whom were muslims. shi'a, sunni, as well as christians. and i think when people hear this sort of peach in this part of the world they will react saying we're the ones who are paying the highest price when it comes to the war against isis. there are iraqis and syrians and libyans and egyptians who are dying in the war against isis.
and when looking at the price that people have paid, it's somewhat galling for people around here who feel that they, muslims, are paying the highest price. here in turkey as you mentioned the attack on the ataturk international airport, this is a 99% muslim country and most of the victims of that attack were muslims so this simplistic interpretation of the war against high sis is going to cause some annoyance in this part of the world. >> ben wedeman, thank you for that. as he talked about libya specifically, clarissa ward, let me fifth back to you. it wasn't too long ago president obama in an interview was asked about his biggest regret and he said it was libya and the fact is, as donald trump continues to point out hillary clinton has her fingerprints all over it. >> that's true, but i think if we've learned anything, brooke,
by the rich tapestry of the middle east over the ages what we understand is it's incredibly complex and there are no really good solutions. the idea that donald trump seems to be proposing that we return to the heyday of the brutal dictator, that that's better for the region is laughable. the reality is the arab spring happened, it didn't happen because of president obama, if anything it was unleashed because of president obama's invasion of iraq but as ben wedeman said, it's been bubbling under the surface for decades, you can't put the genie back in the lamp, so to speak. the region is a complete mess and it may take decades. he specifically mentioned president sisi several times as a kind of bastian of stability. well, the reality is president sisi came to power in a coupe and has subsequently rounded up tens of thousands of muslim
brotherhood supporters and condemn them to do. he is a controversial leader by any standards and by u.s. standards and under his watch, in fact, the reality is these crackdowns don't prevent extremism. they contribute to extremism. isis supporters say they would like to see donald trump become president of the united states of the united states because they believe he will perpetuate the same narrative they are trying to perpetuate, that you're either with us or against us. a muslim or american and there's nowhere in between where the two meet. >> those isis supporters want donald trump to be president, clarissa, i remember you were pointing that out. thank you, stand by. we've gone from the middle east, let's talk russia. i have matthew chance, our senior international
correspondent. i got a note when you heard mr. trump speaking about middle east policy it was reminiscent to a speech made by vladimir putin? >> exactly. i mean, i think it's speeches like this that give donald trump this reputation that he's gathered for being the kremlin's choice for american president because he uses lots of the same language when he talks about u.s. foreign policy, mistakes with u.s. foreign policy in general, talks about the revolutions supported and lays the blame for that in this case to the obama administration but on the previous u.s. administrations and that's exactly what the kremlin does and uses almost exactly that language. back in september vladimir putin addressed the united nations general assembly and said all those exact points and said do you realize what you would done? and i was waiting for those words to come from donald trump's mouth as well. he never said them but he could well have done because it was the same rhetorical message.
>> ed brookhover, you've been listening to a lot of voices chiming in to mr. trump. please respond. >> i think today the american public heard mr. trump lay out his vision, his values and what he would do to make america safe again, to remove this existential threat to our security and defeat isis. something that is a big difference between him and secretary clinton and her long record of failure and he is now ready to lead and put us on solid fooding. >> let me bring up something as we've heard a number of times, donald trump referencing president obama last week. this was something that we discussed, president obama as the founder of isis, then he
said he was being sarcastic. so we've heard from the leader of hezbollah on saturday making comments in the wake of mr. trump's words saying "this is not simple speech, this is an american presidential candidate spoken on behalf of the american republican party, he has data and documents." >> and mr. trump was correct in saying the kinds of policies that hillary clinton took has laid the framework for the extension of isis. that's clear and there's lots of american experts who agree with that ch that. >> he was talking about hillary clinton, saying she didn't have the character and judgment and then he said she lacks the mental and physical stamina to take isis, mental and physical. what did he mean by that? >> i think he's talking about the weakness she's shown in her policies and dealing with these
xi ten shl crises that were on her watch. she was there -- >> forgive me. it's one thing to take on -- he has every right to take on her policies or record but when you talk about mental and physical stamina does that not have a different meaning to you? >> i think what he's talking about the fact that over here years as secretary of state it didn't work so we can't expect over a four or eight-year presidency for it to work, either. >> ed brookover, thank you so much, former trump at vidvisor. stand by, cnn's special coverage continues after the break including the fact that we heard from vice president joe biden speaking at a hillary clinton event on the campaign trail and he didn't mince words when it comes to mr. trump. we'll play that coming up.
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we are talking about a huge speech that donald trump just gave in youngstown, ohio, laying out some of his plans, if and when he is elected president of the united states. peter bergen, one of the point he is kept returning to, talking about al qaeda and iraq and now isis, full blame on both president obama and then secretary of state hillary clinton and he said we could have prevented that. the fact he said obama essentially said we're moving out, here's the time and the date referring to the sudden troop withdrawal. how would you respond to that? >> we can't run history backwards and let's say we did have 10,000 troops in iraq instead of pulling them out at the end of 2011 maybe that would have made a difference. i don't think it would have prevented isis from regrouping in syria as we did.
at the end of the day this speech wasn't about history but proposals. so what was new, brooke, in the speech in terms of proposals that i found, one was that we work more closely with russia, donald trump has repeatedly said he's an admirer of vladimir putin. the other is that we'll try foreign terrorists in military tribunals and keep guantanamo open. i don't think that would be useful because khalid sheikh mohammed, the leader of the 9/11 attacks, the united states capture him in 2003, he is still not on trial in a military tribunal 13 years later. these military tribunals have not succeeded. federal courts in the united states have 100% conviction rates on terrorists and they have relatively speedy trials and the last idea is this ideological test and i don't see how that's workable presuming you'd lie. but what i was hoping trump would say is what he was talking about.
is he talking about syria? is he talking about libya? is he talks about france which has a big domestic problem? >> he didn't name check any countries. it was to be determined? >> to be determined so i don't know what that policy means at this point. and that was what i -- why one hope on this speech was that he would actually be somewhat specific. and i think your guests earlier who is a trump supporter said this is the best foreign policy speech he's delivered and i think that's true because every each speech had been so bad. this is the first speech where there was some argumentation, some evidence. no one could deny that the u.s. decision to topple qaddafi -- which looked like a great idea at the time, produced a vacuum, not enough thinking was give on the the day after and but still, we're not relitigating that and talking about what we do as president.
what are my policies i'm going to do that are different and i didn't hear a lot of things that were either different or if they were different they weren't really workable. >> okay. peter, thank you. and to be fair, i want to make sure we have ed brooke, trump's former adviser, that all of the speeches would make this one the best. please respond to that. >> i don't think i would agree with peter on that at all. mr. trump has been building his case slowly and surely through the campaign. he has been talking about these areas much longer than opponents in the campaign. he has been from day one outlining different proposals he's had to make america safe, more secure, and to avoid the threat. today was another step in the process as he continues to lay out values and positions whether
it is trying to make it for us or against us and to make allies join us against isis. >> on his point and phil mud, on his point about keeping gitmo open, peter was just talking about keeping guantanamo open, what is your response to that? >> i have to agree with peter. i thought it gave the american people clear choices. for example, if you work with the russians, you will allow al-assad to continue. on the guantanamo question, though, i'm going to agree with peter because i don't see the utility of this. we tried terrorist in courts for years successfully. there have not been security incidents and the trials went along so terrorists were convicted. i don't see what the big deal is for transferring someone from guantanamo to the southern district of new york. try them in a court there and put them in jail for life. fine by me.
>> okay. so that is news on keeping guantanamo open and building it up. thank you. brandon web is with me here in new york, former navy s.e.a.l. and founder of the site safra. good to see you, sir. quickly, your quick assess many of the speech and then i will play the soundbite on extreme vetting. >> sure. i definitely thought this was trump's best speech. i'll caveat that with he has given a lot of bad ones leading up to this. i think he was right about russia. right now we are fighting a special co-op war and we need sit down with the russians and hash out a solution. it was an extremely interesting speech. but i think lacked a lot of specifics around how we are going to really combat radical islam at its route core. i think we are still focused on treating symptoms like the immigration policies. >> he gave specifics on what would be a u.s. ally, he talked about tests, when a referenced
as extreme vetting. listen to this. >> the time is overdue to develop a new screening tests for the threats we face today. i call it extreme vetting. i call it extreme, extreme vetting. our country has another problems. we don't need more. and these are problems like we've never had before. >> he is talking about breeding where they come from, is that a bad idea? >> i think it will further create a divide between the muslim world and the u.s. and i also, it's again, if you're screening for people that have already been radicalized, that's a symptom. you need to treat the cause. like what are the social and economic environments in the world that are producing radical islam. and enabling a group like ice
toys promote their cause through the internet among the free world. it is a big problem and i haven't heard the current administration back to the bush administration and anything these two candidate are saying to really get to the core issue. and guantanamo bay just, my thought on that, goes against everything that i fought for overseas as active duty navy s.e.a.l. and to hold people without due process is just he unamerican in my opinion. >> with me now, retired army three star general mark hurtling. i know we have talked many times. you are no fan of mr. trump's. is there anything you heard today that you agree with? >> brooke, i tell you, i was very excited to listen to this speech. i thought there might be indicators of at least a staff supporting them. what i found was different secs of this speech. it started off as revisionist history then it became very confused and disjointed and then at the end when he started
giving his policy it was obviously uninformed. the history peace is suggesting that american soldiers would occupy a country and then take the soil and use that to treat wounded soldiers was both frightening and candoring at the same time. his suggestion that nato changed based on his suggestion a few weeks ago, i don't want to use fareed zakaria word but it was false. nato doesn't move that quickly that they could change it even if they admitted to his suggestion. then when he said would he find common ground with russia and at the same time a few minutes earlier talking about patton being his hero, i wish we could recreate patton so patton could tell him that's a hard thing do and we've been trying to do that for about a hundred years. i don't think mr. trump has the solutions for that. and the final thing that you've been talking about, the extreme
vetting procedures and when he used extreme repeatedly three different times during the speech, that scares the heck out of me. i have family members who are friend of japanese enteernment in world war ii and when we eliminated constitutional rights for citizens, that kind of talk just scares me. fine lit nation-building piece. we do a lot of nation building around a world that isn't just in combat situations. we also do engagement with probably about 80 or 90 different countries to improve their democratic resolve and militaries and government systems. to say we're going to eliminate nation buildings across the world tells me we're not going to engage with any other countries any more. so this speech was really somewhat confusing to me. >> thank you so much. coming up here, we will talk about a current trump foreign policy here. cnn special live coverage continues just after this.
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